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DPPO divergence-masked loss vs GRPO ratio-clipped loss, Qwen3.5-2B GSM8K LoRA RL

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On shared Spindle with Qwen/Qwen3.5-2B (the closest served model to Qwen3.5-0.8B), I pinned DPPO Binary-TV (Stable-RL@c6af1d1, delta=0.15) and Spindle's stock ppo as references, passed loss+gradient parity, and ran the required 5-step DPPO pilot; base greedy GSM8K test accuracy was 0.7036 (928/1319). The activation gate failed (DPPO masked-token fraction 0.0 < 0.001, GRPO clip fraction 0.000457 < 0.0005 on the 2nd update), so per the spec no full training ran and the hypothesis is untested.

No result No result: insufficient evidence.

Result accuracy

Higher is better · Axis from 0.66 to 0.74, not zero
armaccuracy
base0.7036
Changes from the spec 4 · original hypothesis not tested
whatspecran withwhyrecorded
ModelQwen3.5-0.8B (idea)Qwen/Qwen3.5-2B0.8B not served on Spindle; spec already specifies 2B only in the final result
Training steps50 rollout steps (100 optim steps) per arm5-step DPPO activation pilot only; 0 comparison stepsPre-specified activation gate failed (dppo_masked_token_fraction=0.0 < 0.001; grpo_clip_fraction=0.000457 < 0.0005), so full training was not started only in the final result
Objective / losscorrectness_preflight revisions 'UNRESOLVED' placeholdersbaseline=modal-projects/spindle@e58ebef stock ppo; reference=sail-sg/Stable-RL@c6af1d1 dppo_binary_tv delta=0.15Spec required pinning from the paper's released code; tolerances unchanged. Validator: passed on pinned effective spec, unverified (revision mismatch) on the original placeholder spec only in the final result
Modelseed 0 for LoRA initserver-default LoRA init (no per-model seed); seed 0 used for data orderMiles multi-LoRA rejects per-model seeds; both arms were to share one saved init checkpoint instead only in the final result

Original hypothesis tested: no (changing the objective changes the question)

Devin's verdict on the changed experiment: inconclusive

  • model: reported original 'Qwen3.5-0.8B (idea)' but the spec says 'Qwen/Qwen3.5-2B'
  • steps: reported original '50 rollout steps (100 optim steps) per arm' but the spec says '100'
  • model: reported original 'seed 0 for LoRA init' but the spec says 'Qwen/Qwen3.5-2B'
  • reported only in the final result, not before training went on: model, steps, objective, model
  • the original hypothesis was not tested, and tested_instead does not say what was
Checks · activation failed · evaluator unknown · feasibility unknown
Custom implementation correctness: unverified
grpo_dppo_custom_loss: matching reference_revision; grpo_dppo_custom_loss: matching baseline_revision
Validates executor-reported evidence; autonomous training calls are not blocked by this server.
Executor reported inconclusive; shown as no result.
Parity errors and accepted tolerances
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    "check": "baseline_loss",
    "measured": {
      "cosine_similarity": 1.0,
      "max_abs_error": 6.103515625e-05,
      "reference_max_abs": 429.4608154296875,
      "relative_l2_error": 1.4212043114790956e-07
    },
    "path": "grpo_dppo_custom_loss",
    "status": "passed",
    "tolerance": {
      "atol": 1e-05,
      "rtol": 0.0001
    }
  },
  {
    "check": "baseline_gradient",
    "measured": {
      "cosine_similarity": 1.0,
      "max_abs_error": 0.0,
      "reference_max_abs": 8.006952285766602,
      "relative_l2_error": 0.0
    },
    "path": "grpo_dppo_custom_loss",
    "status": "passed",
    "tolerance": {
      "atol": 1e-05,
      "min_cosine": 0.9999,
      "rtol": 0.001
    }
  },
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    "check": "reference_loss",
    "measured": {
      "cosine_similarity": 1.0,
      "max_abs_error": 3.0517578125e-05,
      "reference_max_abs": 420.54302978515625,
      "relative_l2_error": 7.25670762884611e-08
    },
    "path": "grpo_dppo_custom_loss",
    "status": "passed",
    "tolerance": {
      "atol": 1e-05,
      "rtol": 0.0001
    }
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    "check": "reference_gradient",
    "measured": {
      "cosine_similarity": 1.0,
      "max_abs_error": 0.0,
      "reference_max_abs": 8.006952285766602,
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    "path": "grpo_dppo_custom_loss",
    "status": "passed",
    "tolerance": {
      "atol": 1e-05,
      "min_cosine": 0.9999,
      "rtol": 0.001
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Treatment activation: failed, so this run does not test the mechanism
Outside the prespecified range: dppo_masked_token_fraction = 0.0 (needs >= 0.001 and <= 0.3); grpo_clip_fraction = 0.0004568727504516425 (needs >= 0.0005).
dppo_masked_token_fraction
0.0 needs >= 0.001 and <= 0.3 · failed
policy_drift_abs_p_q90
0.010516472533345225 needs >= 0.005 · passed
grpo_clip_fraction
0.0004568727504516425 needs >= 0.0005 · failed
executed_updates_per_batch
2.0 needs >= 2 and <= 2 · passed
executed_base_model
Qwen/Qwen3.5-2B needs one of Qwen/Qwen3.5-2B · passed
Initialization / optimizer verification: unverified
grpo_seed0: missing or duplicate arm evidence.
Research decision: uncertain
Decision evidence was not recorded.
Inference unit: fixed_checkpoint_items · 1 scheduled seed(s). Bounded Hoeffding confidence interval.
Evaluator comparability: unknown
Comparison provenance is incomplete; record every declared arm's score and evaluator.
accuracy: unknown · base, dppo_seed0, grpo_seed0 · missing dppo_seed0, grpo_seed0
Evaluator identities and per-arm scores
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        "grpo_seed0",
        "dppo_seed0"
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      "metric": "accuracy"
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Execute the selected saved experiment version.

Hypothesis

On Qwen3.5-2B LoRA RL on GSM8K with 2 policy updates per rollout batch, the DPPO loss reaches higher greedy exact-match accuracy on the 1319-item GSM8K test set than the GRPO clipped-ratio loss. The lower bound of the paired 95% CI on DPPO minus GRPO must be above 0.

Success criterion

On the 1319 GSM8K test items, the paired 95% Hoeffding CI for DPPO accuracy minus GRPO accuracy has a lower bound above 0.0, roughly a 7.5-point gap at this n. A smaller positive gap is reported as inconclusive, not validated.

gsm8k 100 steps batch 256 LoRA r32 lr 2e-05 120 min wall budget
Method
The requested Qwen3.5-0.8B is not served, so we use the closest served small model, Qwen/Qwen3.5-2B. Both arms run the same client-side RL loop: the tinker-cookbook math_rl GSM8K env, renderer, prompts, reward and data order. Each step samples groups_per_batch=32 GSM8K train prompts with group_size=8 rollouts at temperature 1.0 and max_tokens=512. Advantages are group-mean-centered (GRPO). The rollout batch is split into 2 minibatches. That gives 2 optim_steps per batch, so the policy drifts from the sampling policy and the trust region can act. With one update per fresh batch, neither mask nor clip fires. Both losses are computed in one forked custom loss path through forward_backward_custom, using the sampler logprobs as p_old. The arms differ in exactly one switch: - Baseline (GRPO): token loss -min(r*A, clip(r, 1-0.2, 1+0.2)*A). - Treatment (DPPO, arXiv 2602.04879): token loss -r*A, with tokens masked out when the divergence between the current and sampling policy exceeds the threshold delta in the direction the advantage pushes. The divergence is estimated from the token probabilities, e.g. |p - p_old|, rather than the single-sample ratio. Triage only received a truncated digest of the paper. The exact divergence estimator, delta and masking direction must be pinned from the paper's released code before any training. Until then the correctness preflight is unresolved and no full sweep runs. Training: LoRA rank 32, AdamW lr 2e-5, 50 rollout steps (100 optim steps) per arm, seed 0. Both arms start from the same base weights. Evaluation: the final checkpoint of each arm is scored with greedy decoding on all 1319 GSM8K test items, using the cookbook's numeric answer grader.
Baseline
GRPO clipped-ratio loss (eps=0.2) through the same custom loss path. Identical rollouts per step, 2 minibatch updates per batch, lr, rank, seed, data order and eval.
Full spec
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Interim updates from Devin (1, first Nov 3, 21:30 UTC)
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  1. Nov 3, 21:30 UTC · failed · On shared Spindle with Qwen/Qwen3.5-2B (the closest served model to Qwen3.5-0.8B), I pinned DPPO Binary-TV (Stable-RL@c6af1d1, delta=0.15) and Spindle's stock ppo as references, passed loss+gradient …
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feasibility
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feasibility_required
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generation_audit_validation
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initialization_provenance
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launch
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launch_instructions
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reported_outcome_reason
incomplete_execution
reported_verdict
inconclusive
restoration_validation
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run
run_19badd842c
backend
Devin
session
devin-b673afe88bbf4182a0067b7eef16d225
experiment
exp_e6b0965af3
redone as
run_21b1618aa7 not supported
created
Nov 3, 21:12 UTC
started
Nov 3, 21:12 UTC
finished
Nov 3, 21:30 UTC
duration
18m 29s
GPU-h budget
2.0
wall budget
120 min
base model
Qwen/Qwen3.5-2B
training
RL
dataset
gsm8k
result
final
outcome reason
insufficient evidence
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